Dr. Kevin Bauder: Evangelicalism


May 11, 2012

 

Dr. Kevin Bauder

Perhaps the most difficult word in Christendom to define is Evangelical. Just what is an Evangelical? Dr. Kevin Bauder of Central Theological Seminary, right here in the Twin Cities, recently contributed his view on the subject in a book entitled Four Views on the Spectrum of Evangelicalism. Dr. Bauder brings the Fundamentalist perspective on what constitutes Evangelicalism. In this episode, Dr. Bauder joins me to discuss both the book (in general), and the view that he presented in the book (specifically).

Other views expressed in the book are: Confessional Evangelicalism (Al Mohler), Generic Evangelicalism (John Stackhouse), and Post-Conservative Evangelicalism (Roger Olson). We briefly describe the other views before moving into the view expressed by Kevin Bauder.

Kevin is a research professor of systematic and historical theology at Central Baptist Theological Seminary. He served as President of Central Seminary from 2003-2011, and is general editor of One Bible Only? Examining Exclusive Claims for the King James Bible.

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Show Notes
  • The discussion is framed around the book ”Four Views on the Spectrum of Evangelicalism,“ which features essays from Kevin Bauder, representing “Fundamentalism”; Al Mohler, representing “Confessional Evangelicalism”; John Stackhouse, representing “Generic Evangelicalism”; and Roger Olson, representing “Post-Conservative Evangelicalism.”
  • The book almost breaks down to two major views of Evangelicalism, with two distinct sub-views within each major view. Kevin Bauder’s view shares many similarities to Al Mohler’s view, and John Stackhouse’s view shares many similarities to Roger Olson’s view.
  • John and Roger’s views represent different versions of “Big Tent” Evangelicalism, in that they have more vague boundaries of what they would consider to be inclusive in Evangelicalism.
  • Roger Olson sees Evangelicalism more as a social phenomenon or a movement, whereas Kevin Bauder – at the opposite side of the spectrum, sees it more as a theological phenomenon.
  • While Al Mohler introduced the idea of defining Evangelicalism in the mathematical terms  of centered, bound, or center-bound, Olson states clearly that he sees it as centered. Stackhouse shares that view. (Mohler sees it as center-bound – defined by both the center and the boundaries.)
  • John Stackhouse states that he doesn’t see Evangelicalism as merely a doctrinal phenomena. He introduces the idea that it needs to be right not only in orthodoxy (right doctrine, but also in orthopraxy (right practice), and orthopathy (right affections).
  • Al Mohler’s view is that Evangelicalsim needs boundaries. The Gospel sets boundaries, and that Christians should not have common-cause with those who place themselves outside of those boundaries.
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  • Al Mohler signed the Manhattan Declaration, which a Fundamentalist would not have done. However, he has since expressed a change of mind on the matter and publicly called it a mistake.
  • Bauder’s view was titled “Fundamentalism”, rather than “Fundamentalist Evangelicalism” as one would expect, seeing the pattern of the other titles. Bauder would include Fundamentalism in Evangelicalism, considering it a subset. He says that some Fundamentalists would disagree, and consider Fundamentalism separate from Evangelicalism.
  • Bauder describes Fundamentalism, from the point of view of a self-professed Fundamentalist. It’s primarily an attitude toward the Gospel. Fundamentalists have a strong fidelity toward the Gospel, and wish not to associate with people who deny the Gospel. The have an attitude of “Ecclesiastical non-cooperation with people who deny the Gospel.”
  • Kevin makes the case for what he calls “Minimal Christian Fellowship.” It amounts to the minimum amount of orthodox doctrine that a person professing faith in Christ should have before we should consider them a believer and extend fellowship to them.
  • Kevin describes that a minimum orthodoxy for fellowship entails both what you should affirm, as well as what you should or should not deny,
  • From “Minimal Christian Fellowship”, we move on to discuss “Maximal Christian Fellowship.” The idea being that the more we have in common, the better our fellowship will be. Disagreeing over eschatology or whom should we should baptize or how we should baptism doesn’t preclude fellowship between believers, but it does introduce friction or frustration between believers that effectively reduces the amount of fellowship between believers.
  • The divisions we have often result in denominational differences and splits. Kevin sees denominationalism as a good thing because it allows believers to seek out other believers that share their views on issues that tend to be considered non-essential (as far as salvation is concerned) and worship and practice within the confines of their own consciences. For example, Baptists and Presbyterians can worship within their own denominations without being concerned over each other’s views on baptism.
  • Though Kevin and Al Mohler share many common views on Evangelicalism, we also discussed their differences. The two disagree about how to handle fellowship with Christians who in-turn extend fellowship to others outside of the boundaries of Christianity. The example Kevin gives is that Fundamentalists view Billy Graham to be a genuine believer, but have serious concerns over the people with whom Graham has cooperated in his crusades. Al Mohler, on the other hand, was willing to work with Graham, despite their differences over including Liberals and Catholics in Graham’s crusades (though Mohler did succeed in limiting co-sponsorship of Graham’s Louisville crusade to Conservatives only.)
  • “Evangelicalism” is presented as synonymous with “Christian”.
  • Kevin shares some of the history of American Evangelicalism. He talks about the “Fundamentalist Controversy” of the 1920s, as well as the birth of “Neo-Evangelicalism” in 1947, as well as other major developments in the 20th century that define American Evangelicalism.
Scriptures Referenced
  • I Corinthians 5
  • I Corinthians 12
  • John 10
  • I Corinthians 15
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Eric Barger: Freemasonry


April 16, 2012

 

Eric Barger

This month I spoke with Eric Barger of “Take a Sand Ministries” on the subject of Freemasonry. Eric has been a Christian apologist for nearly three decades, and addresses the Cults, World Religions, the Occult, Spiritual Warfare, and troubling unbiblical trends and doctrinal issues facing the church today. He’s authored several books, travels the country speaking to churches and Christian groups, and hosts his own radio show called “Take a Stand! with Eric Barger.”

Many of us know Christians who are involved in Freemasonry, and wonder what the organization is all about. Eric sheds light on this secretive organization and explains the occultic and anti-Christian practices that go on, as well as the dangers that Freemasonry poses to Christians.

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Discussion Outline
  • Freemasonry is viewed by many (if not most people) as a benevolent fraternal organization that seeks to do charitable work within their community, but there is much more to the organization, and it has a lot of religious aspects to it, which are not in line with orthodox Christianity.
  • Many Freemasons consider their lodge to be their church.
  • The only religious requirement to become a Freemason is that a candidate for membership hold to a belief in a god.
  • Freemasonry contends that it got its start in ancient Egypt, but the earliest records that can be found trace it back to 18th century France.
  • Freemasonry has two tracks that members follow: the York Rite and (more popularly) the Scottish Rite. Each has several degrees that members progress through.
  • The first three degrees, regardless of Rite, are called the “Blue Lodge”.
  • Many Bible-believing organizations and church denominations have forbidden their members and clergy from participating in secret societies, including Freemasonry. Some examples include: The Presbyterian Church in America (PCA), The Assemblies of God, The Reformed Presbyterian Church of America, The Church of God – Cleveland Tennessee, the Four Square Church, and others.
  • Eric read some of the covenants that initiates must swear to enter into the first three degrees of Masonry. The rituals they go through are often downplayed as mere formality for initiation into the organization, but don’t look so good when held up to the light of Scripture.
  • Among the reasons Eric argues that Freemasonry is incompatible with Christianity, he explains that the first thing new members must do is swear a secret oath. The Bible speaks against the swearing of oaths; Jesus said to let your “yes” be “yes” and let your “no” be “no”, that anything that goes beyond this comes from the Evil One. These oaths involve death curses, and are quite grotesque in nature.
  • The Shriners (the guys with the red fez hats) are the top level of Freemasonry.
  • In Christian countries, members that complete the third degree are given a Masonic King James Bible.
  • The maroon fez that Shriners wear can be traced back to a battle waged by Muslims on a Christian town in medieval Turkey in which a Muslim soldier dipped his hat in the blood of Christians that he had killed. That hat also has a crescent moon and a sword on it, both symbols of Islam.
  • The god of Freemasonry is a composite of Jehovah, Baal, and Osiris, and is referred to as Jahbulon.
  • Eric listed several of the names of various Masonic temples in the US to illustrate that they often have names that are tied to Islam.
  • Influential authors within Freemasonry freely admit their connection to the Occult, and occultic leaders leaders such as Anton Lavey (author of the Satanic bible) recognize the Occultic practices within Freemasonry.
  • Membership is drawn by invitation, and members tend to be those who are civic and business-minded.
  • Eric defends American Founding Fathers accused of being involved in Freemasonry, including Washington, John & Samuel Adams, John Hancock, and others. Washington was involved in his youth, but never attended a Masonic Lodge in the last 30 years of his life, and spoke out many times against the Masons.
  • Several reasons Eric views Freemasonry as a religious institution:
    • The leaders is called a “worshipful master”.
    • The meeting place is called the Temple.
    • Initiates must believe there is a god.
    • Masonry instructs about its god as members progress to higher degrees.
    • Masons sing worship songs.
    • Each meeting begins with prayer.
    • The use religious books.
    • Mansonry is Universalistic.
  • Eric advises to approach each Freemason differently, based on where they are, to share the dangers of their organization and compare it to Christianity. He offers some points though: share Jesus’ words in Matthew 5:37, and encourage them to investigate the claims he (Eric) and others make about Freemasonry.
  • Freemasonry and Mormonism have many similarities. Joseph Smith was a Freemason, and many of the temple rituals for Mormonism were lifted directly out of Freemasonry.
Scriptures Referenced
  • Matthew 5:37
  • 1 Peter 3:15
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An Invasion of Error: A Review of Bill Johnson—When Heaven Invades Earth


April 2, 2012

 
By Bob DeWaay

[Note: The February episode of Echo Zoe Radio, featuring guest Bob DeWaay, was based on this article.]

Bill Johnson of Redding, California has become a popular teacher in one of the latest iterations of the Signs and Wonders movement. His book, When Heaven Invades Earth, reveals his underlying theology.

Johnson believes that there will be a great end-time revival that will be initiated by an “Elijah generation”[1] (a concept from the heretical Latter Rain movement) that shall transcend all other generations of Christians in regard to their ability to do great works of power. Johnson claims the following about himself and associates: “We will carry the Elijah anointing in preparing for the return of the Lord in the same way that John the Baptist carried the Elijah anointing and prepared the people for the coming of the Lord” (Johnson: 184)[2].

Supposedly these elitists will set off a great revival of signs and wonders greater than those of Jesus. This miracle explosion, they expect, will cause a great revival before the return of Christ. Johnson states, “I live for the revival that is unfolding and believe it will surpass all previous moves combined, bringing more than one billion souls into the Kingdom” (Johnson: 23).

The basic premise is that God always wants to do abundant and remarkable miracles but is kept from doing so by the fear and unbelief of the church. God awaits the arrival of specially anointed and enlightened Christians who will make it possible for Him to bring at long last an invasion of heaven to earth before the return of Christ. That is the point of Johnson’s title. His subtitle is A Practical Guide to a Life of Miracles. Accordingly, with the right information, zeal, desire, piety, faith and anointing, any Christian can “make the supernatural natural” (Johnson: 133).

In this article I will show from Johnson’s book that he has departed from orthodox Christian teaching in many serious ways. He teaches the heretical kenosis doctrine about Christ. He denies the Reformation principle of sola scriptura. He embraces pietism, elitism, subjectivism, fideism, dominion theology, and many other errors. I will claim that his supposed end-time revival is actually end-time apostasy.

How to Introduce Heresy

As I read Johnson’s book, I noted the various errors in it by category. At the end of the process the largest number of entries was under “anti-scholastic bias.” Johnson is firmly against careful scholarship based on sound exegesis of Scripture. To him, such study is likely to bring one into bondage and spiritual death. Sadly, this bias is widespread in current evangelicalism, but Johnson is quite blatant in his rejection of scholarship.

Johnson claims, “For decades the Church has been guilty of creating doctrine to justify their lack of power. . .” (Johnson: 116). It is hard to imagine what “problem” he is reacting to when most of our evangelical educational institutions are committed to postmodern mysticism, with their heroes being mystics like Dallas Willard and Richard Foster. It is hard to find a Bible college or seminary that does not promote “spiritual formation,” which is merely a fancy term for Roman Catholic mysticism. Yet Johnson decries the presence of doctrine. We will see later just how willing he is to depart from orthodox doctrine.

He resorts to an often misused passage that promotes his anti-scholastic bias: “A powerless Word is the letter not the Spirit. And we all know, ‘The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life’” (Johnson: 116). This twisting of Paul’s meaning in 2Corinthians 3:6 has a long history of use to promote subjectivism and mysticism. The false implication is that studying the Bible will kill you spiritually. The context shows that Paul was speaking of the letters written on stone (verse 3), meaning the Decalogue. Paul explains how the law “kills” in Romans 7:5, 6. It kills because of our sinful passions that it exposes, not because it is studied for what it means.[3]

For example, does “you shall not steal” have some secret, mystical meaning that can only be assessed by certain elite persons with subjective spiritual impressions, or does it mean what it says? It means what it says. But to truly live as a person who is free from the sin of stealing we need the grace of God that comes through the gospel. In 2Corinthians 3, Paul is speaking of those who have the Law but reject Christ. Bill Johnson is warning Christians that studying the Bible will kill them. In so doing he abuses the passage and lowers the value of Scripture in the minds of his readers.

Johnson warns against “a powerless Word.” The only way God’s Word lacks power is if we refuse to believe and obey it. The suggestion is false and abusive to the Lord’s flock that people like Johnson, who refuse to be taught the truth but relish signs and wonders, have “power” while those who love and believe God’s Word are powerless.
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Marcia Montenegro: The Occult


March 25, 2012

 

The occult is becoming increasingly commonplace in our society today, and Marcia Montenegro took some time to talk about it. Before Marcia became a Christian, she was a professional astrologer, and engaged in many other occult practices as well. She is currently a full-time missionary with Fellowship International Mission, and has her own ministry called Christian Answers for the New Age.

NOTE: Marcia and I are discussing a follow-up discussion on this topic. There is much she would have liked to cover, but couldn’t get to for lack of time. We will likely revisit this in late 2012. If you have any questions you’d like to ask for the follow-up, please feel free to ask them in the comments, via email, or via social media.

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Discussion Outline
  • Marcia begins with her experience in the New Age and the Occult
    • Involved in: Zen Buddhism, the New Age, and the Occult
    • She was a professional astrologer for over eight years, and taught astrology for five. She was also the chair of the board of astrology examiners in Atlanta, Georgia, and president of the astrological society in Atlanta.
    • She used Tarot Cards, took a course in numerology, and learned palm reading; with friends who were into many of the same things, as well as psychics and other occult practices.
    • Many of her friends and clients were also into Wicca, Witchcraft, and Neo-Paganism.
    • She now runs Christian Answers for the New Age and is a full time missionary with Fellowship International Missions, based in Allentown, PA
  • While the New Age and the Occult have a lot of similarities, and overlap in many ways, I asked Marcia to describe some of the differences between them.
    • The New Age is more transcendent, and looks ahead to the future. It is based on the idea of evolving through reincarnation.
    • The Occult is much more focused on the here-and-now.
    • The New Age is more of a worldview, whereas the Occult is more of a set of practices.
  • Marcia divides the Occult into three main categories: Divination, Spirit contact, and Sorcery/Magic (a.k.a. Magick).
  • Divination:
    • Many different words used in Bible translations to try to describe the Hebrew terms, including: sorcery, sooth-saying, divination, witchcraft, augury, and others.
    • Divination is described as reading hidden meaning into patterns, things in nature, or the supernatural.
      • Numerology – meaning in numbers
      • Meaning from images – Tarot cards
      • Meaning from the lines on your hand – Palmistry or Palm reading.
      • Meaning from the positions of the planets – Astrology
      • More subtle forms, such as swinging a pendulum to derive answers to questions or problems.
    • Marcia sees the magic 8-ball as not quite divination, but dangerous because it can be a tool to open people up to divination.
    • She does not see tossing a coin as a form of divination. Her example was deciding to go to an Italian or Mexican restaurant, and flipping a coin to determine which to eat at.
    • Casting lots was not an occultic form of divination because it was done at the direction of the Lord. Marcia observes that lots where never used after the giving of the Holy Spirit in Acts.
    • Psychic get information via a supernatural means, so Marcia puts them in the category of divination, though there is some overlap with Spirit Contact.
    • Words ending in mancy are typically forms of divination: necromancy (consulting the dead), tasseomancy (tea-leaf reading), arithmancy (numerology), geomancy (divining geological forms, used in Feng Shui)
  • Spirit Contact:
    • Some occult practices overlap between divination and spirit contact, such as necromancy, psychics, etc.
    • Spirit guides.
    • Channeling, Mediating (mediums), Ouija boards, and simply talking to spirits are all methods of engaging in spirit contact.
    • There are many spiritualist “churches” that engage in occult practices.
    • The Ouija board was designed as a means to spirit contact, not as a game.
  • Sorcery/Magic (Magick)
    • The attempt to alter reality, be it present or future.
    • Incantations, rituals, magical tools, and casting spells are forms of sorcery.
    • Healing is very common in sorcery. Using sorcery to heal is not a good thing.
      • A Shaman is a Witchdoctor.
  • There are many aspects of the occult that are manifested and glamorized in popular culture.
    • Astrology/horoscopes.
    • TV/Movies:
      • Contact with the dead
        • Medium
        • Ghost Whisperer
        • Hereafter
        • Silvia Brown on Montel Williams
        • Jonathan Edwards in Crossover
        • Harry Potter books & movies
    • Feng Shui
      • A form of geomancy that is popular in construction and real estate.
      • Comes from Daoism (Chinese mysticism)
      • It’s not just about eliminating clutter.
  • Understanding the occult is important for Christians.
    • It’s a form of deception.
    • It’s a way to draw people from Christ.
    • It desensitizes people to evil.
  • Marcia also discusses the difference between fantasy and occult in entertainment.
    • Fantasy does not glamorize the occult.
      • Lord of the Rings
      • Awake (NBC) (as of the first few episodes)
Scriptures Referenced
  • Deuteronomy 18:10-12
  • 1 Samuel 15:23
  • Ezekiel 21:21
  • Acts 1:26
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Bob DeWaay: Bill Johnson, IHOP, & Ancient Heresy Reborn


February 24, 2012

 

It’s been almost two years since my friend Bob DeWaay has joined me for a podcast, but he is back to talk about the heresies found in the International House of Prayer. The discussion is based on an article that Bob wrote for Critical Issues Commentary that he hasn’t yet published entitled “An Invasion of Error: A Review of Bill Johnson – When Heaven Invades Earth“. Johnson is a pastor in Redding, California and is closely associated with IHOP in Kansus City. Much of what Johnson teaches is also pushed by IHOP.

[Update April 2, 2012: The article that this episode is based on is now available]

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An Outline of the Discussion
  • Much of what we discussed revolves around a book by Bill Johnson, a pastor in Redding, California, called “When Heaven Invades Earth.” The book details formulas for performing miracles. Bob contends that once a miracle becomes the outcome of a prescribed formula, it is no longer a miracle, but a natural phenomenon.
  • Jesus as portrayed as a person that could only do miracles in His Earthly ministry because He learned all of the proper formulas.
  • A heretical view of Jesus is taught that says that He laid aside His divinity while on Earth. This is heretical because divinity, by definition, is not a quality that can be laid aside. If ever there was a time that Jesus was not divine, He never was divine to begin with, nor ever will be.
  • Bill Johnson professes a teaching that is shared with IHOP (International House of Prayer) of an “Elijah Generation”, or an elite group of Christians that shows up at the end of the age, is greater than any other group of Christians in history, and do greater miracles than Jesus. Such teaching has its roots in the long-discredited Latter Rain movement that began in the 1940s.
  • The ancient heresy of Kenosis is taught. Kenosis doctrine is based on a misinterpretation of Philippians 2, and teaches that Jesus “emptied Himself of diety”, and was merely a man during His Earthly ministry.
    • Deity cannot be gained, lost, laid down, or set aside. It either is or it isn’t.
    • Deity is defined as: non-contingent eternal existence.
  • Johnson, et. al. operate under an anti-scholastic bias that downplays the importance of scripture in favor of spiritual experience. He states “The letter kills, but the spirit gives life”.
  • The promotion of spiritual experience and special knowledge not found in scripture is a form of gnosticism, a heresy that dates back to the days of the Apostle Paul.
  • The letter kills in that the letter is the law, and the law kills in that it points to Christ, but it is Christ that saves, not the law. The law is a schoolmaster as Paul says in Galatians 3:24
  • Paul warned about gnosticism in his Corinthian letters, Colossians, and elsewhere.
  • Gnosis is the Greek word for knowledge, and gnosticism refers to a special knowledge, not found in scriptures, nor available to all Christians.
  • Gnosticism leads to a strange form of panentheistic worldview.
  • Bob likes to say that “There are no extraordinary Christians, but being an ordinary Christian is an extraordinary thing.”
  • The teaching that there are “elite” Christians parallels the Catholic teaching of super-irrigation, or works that go above an beyond that which is required by ordinary Christians.
  • “Those who feel safe because of their intellectual grasp of Scriptures enjoy a false sense of security. None of us has a full grasp of Scripture, but we all have the Holy Spirit. He is our common denominator who will always lead us into truth. But to follow Him, we must be willing to follow off the map—to go beyond what we know.” (Johnson: 76)
  • Docetism is a heresy that says that Christ only seemed to have a body.
  • People who follow false teaching, especially of the sort that Bill Johnson teaches, often decry the “cognitive” as antithetical to “walking in the spirit”. However, they don’t realize that they make their own decisions and form their own beliefs based on a “cognitive” understanding of the world that they like. They merely use a different “cognitive” standard than that of Bible-believing Christians. Gnosticism uses a subjective cognitive standard, as opposed to the objective standard of the Scriptures.
  • Johnson claims that reaction to error often leads to more error. This stands in contrast to much of the New Testament in which Paul, and other New Testament writers, wrote epistles meant to correct error (Galatians, Colossians, Hebrews, etc.)
  • We don’t question a false teacher’s motives or sincerity, we question their doctrine in light of Scripture.
  • Elitism is a heretical view that some Christians are more spiritual than others, and somehow better Christians.
  • Pietism is a reaction to “dead orthodoxy,” and has a heavy emphasis on experience.
  • Fideism teaches faith for the sake of faith. It de-emphasizes the object of faith and replaces it with faith itself.
  • Panentheism is often mistakenly adopted by Christians who misunderstand omnipresence. It teaches that God is in everything (as opposed to Pantheism that teaches that God is everything and everything is God.)
  • The Emergent Church movement is largely panentheistic, and they don’t necessarily deny it.
  • Bill Johnson’s similarities to IHOP (International House of Prayer) in Kansas City include:
    • Common roots in Latter Rain theology
    • Both target young people
    • Elitism – The “Elijah Generation”
    • Manifested Sons of God
    • Bridal paradigm. A sensual relationship between Christ and believers.
    • “Deeper Life.” A gnostic idea that there is a secret that will lead you to a deeper life with Christ.
  • Bill Johnson’s connection to IHOP appears to be informal, though he has spoken at many conferences held by IHOP.
Scripture References
  • Hebrews 10:7
  • John 5:39
  • 2 Corinthians 3:6
  • John 5:46
  • Galatians 3:24
  • Acts 17:11
  • 1 John 4:1-5
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Alan Shlemon: Islam


January 21, 2012

 

For this month’s episode, I interviewed Alan Shlemon of Stand to Reason on the subject of Islam. Alan trains Christians to persuasively share their convictions on various cultural issues, as well as share the Gospel with Muslims in a gracious, yet persuasive manner, as Stand to Reason is known for.

Our conversation was broken into two main parts. In the first part, Alan gives an overview of what Islam is, what Muslims believe, and compares and contrasts Islam and Christianity. In the second part, Alan explains how he goes about engaging Muslims in a thoughtful discussion on spiritual issues, and answers their most common objection: that the Bible cannot be trusted because it has been corrupted.

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An Outline of the Discussion

Alan’s Background

  • Alan is ethnically Assyrian. his family is originally from Baghdad, and he still has family there. His family is, like most Assyrians, historically Christian, but being from the Middle-East his family has a lot of experience and understanding of Islam and Muslim culture.
  • Alan’s understanding of Islam comes mostly through research and study that he has done on his own as a staff member at Stand to Reason.

Explaining Islam

  • Islam has Five Pillars (required behaviors) and Five Articles of Faith (required beliefs.)
  • The Five Articles of Faith are as follows:
    • The unity of God. God/Allah is Unitarian, as opposed to Trinitarian. This is the most fundamental of the beliefs of Islam, and to reject it is to commit the most grievous of sins, which they call the sin of shirk.
    • Belief in God’s Angels. Similar to Christianity’s views, that there are angels. However, Islam teaches that angels do not have free will. They also believe in angel-like beings called Jinn, which are similar to the Christian understanding of demons. Jinn are mischievous beings that do have free will. Satan is a Jinn.
    • Belief in God’s prophets. The belief that God has sent prophets to mankind. Examples of prophets include: Adam, Noah, Moses, David, Jesus, and Mohammad.
    • Belief in God’s Books. Islam teaches that there are four holy books written by God/Allah. These include: The Torah, the Psalms, the Gospel, and the Quran.
    • Belief in the Final Judgment. At the end of time, all people will be resurrected and judged based on good deeds and bad. All of our good deeds and bad deeds will be put on a scale and if the good outweighs the bad, we will enter Heaven/Paradise. If the bad outweigh the good, we enter Hell. This eliminates the possibility of assurance of salvation, since we can’t possibly know how the scales will tip. The only exception is that death in jihad (holy war) dying for the cause of Allah guarantees salvation.
  • The five Pillars are as follows:
    • Reciting the Creed. The creed says “There is no god but Allah, and Mohammad is his messenger.” Saying this creed, and believing it sincerely makes one a Muslim.
    • Daily Prayer. Muslims pray five times every day.
    • The Fast of Ramadan. A month-long fast in which Muslims abstain from food, drink, smoking, sex, etc. during the daylight hours, and is done to commemorate that Mohammad receive the Quran from Allah via the angel Gabriel over a 22 year period.
    • The Giving of Alms. Similar to the Judeo=Christian concept of tithing, though it is 2.5% rather than 10%, and the money goes toward serving the poor and needy.
    • Pilgrimage to Mecca. Muslims are required to travel to Mecca, Saudi Arabia and perform various rituals at least once in their life (more is better), though there are exceptions for those who cannot do so for physical or financial reasons.
  • There are several sects of Islam, the two main ones being the Shia and the Sunni. The division arose after the death of Mohammad over who would be his successor. Sunnis believed that the successor should be elected, whereas the Shiites believed that the successor should be divinely appointed, as was Mohammad, and wished for the succession to follow the blood lines of Mohammad. Each of these two main sects sees the other as apostate.
  • The succession determined the source of authority for theology.
  • Muslims often name their children after successors to Mohammad, so often it’s easy to determine if they are Shia or Sunni based on their name.
  • Alan sees two common misconception that Christians have of Islam, which he describes as two sides of the same coin. The first is that Christians often assume that, given Islam’s often violent nature, that all Muslims are violent people. This isn’t the case, most Muslims are peaceful people. The second misconception, which comes about from the observation that most Muslims are peaceful is that they then think that Islam is peaceful. As Alan says, Islam is not a peaceful religion hijacked by violent Muslims, for the most part it is a violent religion that is practiced by mostly peaceful people often unaware of what their religion really teaches.
  • Many people believe that the God of Christianity and the god of Islam (Allah) are the same. They have many similarities, but significant differences as well.
    • Similarities include:
      • Both claim they are the one true god.
      • Both are transcendent, which is to say that they created the universe, but are separate from it.
      • Both are omnipotent and omniscient.
    • Differences include:
      • Yahweh is Trinitarian, whereas Allah is Unitarian.
      • Yahweh is immanent, which is to say that He enters into creation; Allah is not immanent.
      • Allah is unknown and it is not man’s job to know god, but only to obey him. Yahweh is both known and obeyed.
  • Another way to answer the question is “do Christians and Muslims worship the same god?” Alan says no. Christians worship Jesus as God, but that is considered blasphemy by Muslims.
  • Christianity teaches that we must not only worship the right God, but we must do so in the right manner, that is to say as He wishes to be worshiped.
  • All false religions, be they psuedo-Christian cults or different religions entirely, teach a false view of the person and works of Jesus Christ. Islam teaches the following about Jesus:
    • He is a created being (not God the Creator).
    • He was appointed as a prophet.
    • He is not the son of God.
    • He is not the second person of the Trinity.
    • He did not die on the cross. It would be offensive for a prophet of Allah to die like a criminal.
    • He was not resurrected.
    • He could not and did not atone for our sins.
  • Islam teaches things about Jesus that are surprising to many Christians. In fact, it says things that it doesn’t say of Muhammad, including:
    • That his birth was announced by angels.
    • He was born to the virgin Mary.
    • He was sinless.
    • He had the power to heal and raise the dead.
    • He was called the Messiah.
    • He was taken up by God to Heaven to be in His presence at the end of his life.
    • Shiites teach that Jesus will return at the end of the age to judge humanity.

Answering Muslim objections and Sharing the Gospel with them:

  • Alan describes Stand to Reason’s approach to engaging with unbelievers in general by using questions to advance a conversation and make a point rather than making statements.
  • Alan’s straightforward approach to engaging with Muslims is to share the Gospel with them just as he would with any other non-believer.
  • The most common objection Muslims give is that the Bible has been corrupted, and so they cannot accept what it teaches about Jesus.
  • Alan leverages the Muslim’s respect for the Quran by showing that it teaches the following:
    • God’s word cannot be changed or corrupted.
    • The Bible is the word of God.
    • Therefore: The Bible is trustworthy, and it is not true that it has been corrupted.
  • Answering this objection typically leads to a healthier respect for Christians by Muslims.
  • Muslims love to talk about religion, and tend to be people who are very easy to share your faith with.
Scripture References

Biblical:

  • John 4:24
  • James 2:19

Islamic:

  • Surah 2:136
  • Surah 4:136
  • Surah 29:46
  • Surah 10:94
  • Surah 5:43 & 5:47-48
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December 25, 2011

 


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Ryan Habbena: Examining Tongues – Part 1


December 20, 2011

 

In the American Evangelical Church today, the words “speaking in tongues” provoke an automatic understanding heavily influenced by Pentecostal teaching that one who “speaks in tongues” does so in an unknown, heavenly language. To our human ears, it sounds like babbling. In this episode, Pastor Ryan Habbena takes a step back and examines the phenomena of speaking in tongues to try to better understand what is going on in the passages of scripture where this phenomenon takes place. Ryan strives to take a step outside of our contemporary understanding and investigate the cultural, historical, and literary context in which we find tongues mentioned. He presents a more conservative explanation for what is really going on when people speak in tongues in the Scriptures.

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An Outline of the Discussion
  • Ryan begins by giving his own theological background on the issue of tongues, being raised in an Evangelical Lutheran (ELCA) church that didn’t teach on the topic. As he began his Biblical studies, he didn’t have an opinion either way.
  • The decision to study tongues came out of preparations for teaching a class at the church he pastors.
  • Ryan sought to understand the passages regarding Tongues as they would have been understood by first century Christians, rather than from a 21st century America understanding.
  • To understand the phenomena of tongues, Ryan begins at the beginning in Genesis with the creation of human languages at the Tower of Babel. (Genesis 11:6-9)
  • When God called Abram/Abraham and established the Hebrew nation, the Hebrew language was established as the Holy Tongue, with which most of the Old Testament was written, and was the language that was used in ecclesiastical teaching.
  • Isaiah predicted that God’s Word would one day go out in foreign languages (besides Hebrew): “Indeed, He will speak to this people Through stammering lips and a foreign tongue, He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,” And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.” – Isaiah 28:11-12
  • Peter quotes Joel in regards to what happened in Acts at the time of Pentecost: “It will come about after this that I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind; And your sons and daughters will prophesy,Your old men will dream dreams,Your young men will see visions. Even on the male and female servants I will pour out My Spirit in those days.” – Joel 2:28-29
  • Tongues are always accompanied by prophecy in scripture.
  • The Jews began to lose Hebrew as their native tongue beginning with the Babylonian captivity.
  • In the eastern portions of the Roman empire, including ancient Israel, the predominant languages were Greek and Aramaic. Latin was used in official, governmental capacity, and Hebrew was primarily used in ecclesiastical settings in a liturgical capacity, much like the Catholics used Latin up until Vatican II.
  • The book of Acts begins with Christ telling His disciples that they will receive power from the Holy Spirit and will take the Gospel to all of Jerusalem, Judea and Sumaria, and to the uttermost parts of the Earth (Acts 1:8). This is the primary focus of the entire book of Acts.
  • The first incidence of “tongue speaking” takes place at Pentecost, a feast in which all able-bodied Jews are in Jerusalem to celebrate. These Jews primarily spoke either Aramaic (eastern Jews) or Greek (Hellenized/western Jews).
  • Greek words used in Acts are: laleo (speak), apothengomai (utterance), glossa (tongues), and dialoectos (native languages).
  • The miraculous gift seems to be in the boldness of their speech.
  • When we read the list of various nationalities present at Pentecost in Acts 2:8-11, it’s natural to assume that each nationality has its own lanquage, but in the Roman empire everyone spoke one of just a few languages.
  • Mockers suggested that those who were speaking were drunk (in the morning). This is often used to suggest that they were babbling, at least from the point of view of those listening, and that they must have been speaking some heavenly language, since Peter responded that they were not drunk. Drunkenness doesn’t necessarily lead to babbling, especially mild drunkenness, but rather lowers inhibitions. Those speaking were thought to be drunk because they were speaking of the things of God in common languages, and were common men themselves, not priests, scribes, or Pharisees. It was thought that one would have to be drunk to be so bold.
  • Over and over, the speeches given are with boldness.
  • If what Ryan is saying is right: that the supernatural gifting is in the boldness, but not necessarily in the language spoken, it is hard to engage in an argument about cessationism.
  • The focus of Acts is in the proclamation of the Gospel.

Please feel free to direct questions and feedback our way. We’ll be following up on this subject sometime in mid 2012, and would like to incorporate feedback in that discussion. You can do so via the comments sections (here, on Facebook, or Google+), via the feedback form, or even by old-fashioned snail-mail (see feedback form for address).

Scripture References
  • Genesis 11:6-9
  • Genesis 12
  • Isaiah 28:11-12
  • Joel 2:28-29
  • Numbers 11:27-29
  • John 19:19-20
  • Acts 1:8
  • Acts 2:3
  • Acts 2:8-11
  • Acts 2:12-21
  • Acts 4:8-10, 13
  • Acts 4:31
  • Acts 10:44-46
  • Acts 19:1-10
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Sandy Simpson: The New Apostolic Reformation


November 6, 2011

 

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. – 2 Corinthians 11:13

Sandy Simpson, of the Apologetics Coordination Team, joins me to discuss the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Sandy runs Deception in the Church, an extensive library of resources on the NAR and related movements and organizations.

I would appreciate feedback, along with questions about this subject. Sandy has graciously agreed to the possibility of a follow-up interview, possibly late in 2012, and I would love to have listener questions to use in such an interview.

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An Outline of the Discussion
  • Sandy begins by describing his initial encounter with the New Apostolic Reformation while working as a missionary in Guam, which led him to investigate their movement.
  • The NAR teaches that there are foundational Apostles today that are equal to, if not greater than, the original twelve Apostles of the first century.
  • They teach that there is a transferrable impartation. The Holy Spirit can be imparted upon individuals by NAR “apostles”.
  • Sandy sees links between NAR, Emergent, and “Church Growth”; all coming out of Fuller Theological Seminary.
  • NAR puts together large-scale prayer meetings to lure in orthodox Christians to their methods and teachings.
  • NAR and Word-of-Faith come from the same roots, and have many similarities.
  • NAR seeks to take over the government, and Sandy asks what the difference is between “Christian Fascism” and “Islamic Fascism”?
  • Sandy asserts that NAR denies some of the fundamental, core doctrines of Christianity. This places them within the definition of a cult movement. Core doctrines that they deny include: the Trinity; the divinity and personhood of Christ (hypostatic union); salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone; the supremacy of Scripture in all matters of faith and practice; the fact that Christ is going to return bodily to judge and rule the Earth (dominionism requires us to conquer the Earth before He returns).
  • We discuss the prophetic element of NAR. The movement rarely references scripture, favoring instead “new revelation”. When they give prophesy over someone, they often just puff up the person they are supposedly prophesying over.
  • “Slain in the Spirit” is a practice that is common in the NAR. It was picked up by William Branham on a trip to India, and is just a repackaged version of the Hindu practice of shakti-pat.
  • Sandy explains the practice of diaprax, which is in use by various groups and forces hostile to Christianity. It pits a thesis against an anti-thesis. The two battle, eventually merging into a synthesis.
  • Scandals and immoral behavior often follow false teachers.
  • I ask Sandy to give his thoughts on a few of the players. Specifically I asked about Dutch Sheets, Rick Joyner, and Mike Bickel.
  • NAR has a practice called “Prayer Walking” by which they supposedly cast out territorial demons.
  • The NAR has many similarities to the ancient gnostics. Namely, they place heavy emphasis on special knowledge (new revelation), and attempts to create a “higher order” of Christianity/Spirituality.
Scripture References
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Mike Abendroth: Sola Scriptura


October 1, 2011

 

“The sacred and inspired scriptures are sufficient to declare truth”Athanasius

I am joined for the October episode of Echo Zoe Radio by Pastor Mike Abendroth of Bethlehem Bible Church in West Boylston, Massachusetts. Mike also hosts a radio show and Podcast called No Compromise Radio.

This episode marks the third installment in the series on the Five Solas of the Reformation, this one on Sola Scriptura. (For the first two, see Dr. James White: Sola Gratia & Sovereign Grace, and Phil Johnson: Sola Fide.)

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An outline of our discussion is as follows:

  • The history of Sola Scriptura. The doctrine arises from the debate over authority that took place early in the Reformation. The Reformers argued that the Scriptures alone carry the authority of God in all things relating to the Christian Faith.
    • Sola Scriptura is the formal principle of the Reformation. (Sola Fide being the material principle.)
    • Without Sola Scriptura, everything else falls.
    • In fact, if you listen carefully, you will notice that the real authority for Rome is neither Scripture nor tradition, but the church. What is Scripture and what does it teach? Only the church can tell you. What is tradition and does it teach? Only the church can tell you. As the Roman theologian John Eck said “The Scriptures are not authentic, except by the authority of the church.” As Pope Pius IX said at the time of the First Vatican Council in 1870, “I am tradition.” The overwhelming arrogance of such statement is staggering. But it confirms our claim that, for Rome, the only real authority is the church: sola ecclesia. – W. Robert Godfrey, Sola Scriptura, page 43
  • The role of tradition in the Protestant Church.
    • The creeds and confessions (the London Baptist Confession of 1689, the Westminster Confession, The 39 Articles of the Anglical Faith, etc.) carry much weight in the Protestant Church, and summarize what we believe, but they are subordinate to Scripture.
  • How do we define the Scripture?
    • The Roman Catholic Church will say that they selected the Canon of scripture, so they know what it contains, and what it lacks.
    • Jesus affirmed the Old Testament Canon by quoting from it, and taking it as it at face value. He never quoted from the Apocrypha, and neither do the New Testament writers.
    • The Apocrypha was added to the Catholic Bible approximately 30 years into the Reformation.
    • Mike recommends that people read the Apocrypha.
  • How do we rightly interpret scriptures?
    • “You have Scripture for a master instead of me; from there you can learn whatever you would know” – John Chrysostom
    • Mike goes by what he calls the “blue-collar hermeneutic”, which is to say that blue-collar workers, then as well as now, were the primary audience, and the Bible was written such that they could understand it.
    • Scripture is illuminated to the believer by the Holy Spirit.
    • Men are gifted supernaturally with the gift of teaching to better understand the Scriptures.
    • Scriptures must be interpreted in light of authorial intent.
  • We discussed the contemporary Protestant application of Sola Scriptura, and where Evangelicals diverge from the application of Sola Scriptura in the Church today.
    • When people begin to add internal machinations such as “God told me,” “God revealed to me,” “God gave me an impression,” “God gave me some intuition,” “God told me something and His Spirit testified to my spirit,” etc. they do the same thing Catholics do by putting their tradition at an equal standing, or above the Scriptures.
    • The idea that God talks to people today is a functional denial of Sola Scriptura.
    • Blackaby’s “Experiencing God,” Beth Moore’s Contemplative Prayer, etc. are other contemporary examples of a functional denial of Sola Scriptura
  • How do the cults abuse Sola Scriptura?
    • They approach scriptures in one of two ways:
      • They use their own book, outside the Bible.
      • They use the Bible, but add to it with their own writings and/or teachings.
Scriptures Referenced
  • 2 Timothy 3:16
  • Acts 17:10-12
  • 1 Thessalonians 5
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